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Offline badhon_raj

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[Solved] Install tiny core extension offline
« on: March 09, 2013, 09:26:39 AM »
Hello all. I've two question.

1. Why on earth there is 4 step human verification required for registration? This is very annoying. I've never seen such thing in any other site.

Ok there are another two before I post this topic. :facepalm:

2. How do I install extension without internet connection?
I've downloaded latest one.
4.x > x86 > release > TinyCore-current.iso
used Universal usb installer to put it into a flash drive.
I want to install file manager. So I've downloaded
tinycorelinux > 4.x > x86 > fluff.tcz
Put it into /tce folder of flash drive. Now it won't boot. It stuck at a screen with

tc@box :~$ _

now what do I do?
If I remove tce directory, it boots normally.
Thank you..
« Last Edit: March 11, 2013, 03:40:20 AM by badhon_raj »

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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2013, 10:01:16 AM »
Start by spending some time in the wiki.

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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2013, 10:41:46 AM »
Start by spending some time in the wiki.
Nice response form a moderator.
I'm googling around since morning. Now I don't have any more clue where to look at. That's why asked for a right direction.

Edit: FYI this is one of the first pages I read this morning.
http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:install_apps
« Last Edit: March 09, 2013, 10:52:20 AM by badhon_raj »

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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2013, 10:46:51 AM »
It's /tce/optional
"Software gets slower faster than hardware gets faster." Niklaus Wirth - A Plea for Lean Software (1995)

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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2013, 10:52:39 AM »
Hi badhon_raj
I would suggest booting the drive on a machine with an Internet connection connection and using the Apps
utility to install any extensions you need. Trying to download and install apps manually is generally not a
good idea.

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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2013, 11:01:49 AM »
The forum is not a substitute for reading the documentation.
You need to read the wiki articles on persistence.
http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:persistence_for_dummies

and extensions
http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:install_apps


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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2013, 11:03:14 AM »
It's /tce/optional
thanks. I've tried that too.

fluff.tcz has no dep file. So I guess it doesn't have any dependancy. Still I tried
fluff.tcz
fluff_unicode.tcz
fluff_unicode.tcz.dep
fltk-1.3.tcz
and fltk_upgrade.tcz putting together.
Still no luck. :(

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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2013, 11:11:50 AM »
I would suggest booting the drive on a machine with an Internet connection connection and using the Apps
utility to install any extensions you need.
Which may be facilitated with CorePlus
"Software gets slower faster than hardware gets faster." Niklaus Wirth - A Plea for Lean Software (1995)

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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2013, 11:20:04 AM »
Hi badhon_raj
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2. How do I install extension without internet connection?
Is the problem that the machine uses a wireless connection and you can't connect? If that's the case, use
tinypoodles suggestion and install CorePlus to the drive instead, it contains the tools and drivers you need
to set up a connection.

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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2013, 11:33:31 AM »
Hi badhon_raj
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2. How do I install extension without internet connection?
Is the problem that the machine uses a wireless connection and you can't connect? If that's the case, use
tinypoodles suggestion and install CorePlus to the drive instead, it contains the tools and drivers you need
to set up a connection.
yes. That is the problem. I've only EDGE connection with a nokia phone using as a modem. And I belive it is quite a hassle to set up that. That's why I was trying to avoid that.
Sadly now I ended up with more hassle than that. :(

edit: ok I've downloaded older versions and installation works perfectly for 3.8.4.  That'll do now for me. But still I couldn't find out why it wasn't working on the latest version.
Thank you all. :) 
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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2013, 12:36:13 PM »
ok I've downloaded older versions and installation works perfectly for 3.8.4.  That'll do now for me. But still I couldn't find out why it wasn't working on the latest version.
Difference being that with 3.8.4 GUI components are within initrd, while they were outfactored to extensions since.
As opposed to what you claim in OP, when you meet a prompt "tc@box :~$" _ your system has fully booted, just no X server is running.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2013, 12:40:08 PM by tinypoodle »
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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2013, 07:31:20 PM »
ok, I'm here again with a new problem.
I can't copy/move any files of my hdd. Tried xfe, fluff, and emelfm. It says
can't write to /mnt/sda2: permission denied.
Can't create '/mnt/sda2/a.txt' Read-only file system.

Running as root doesn't help.
How do I mount them as read-write.
Please help me. Which article (s) do I need to read?

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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2013, 07:53:39 PM »
I'm guessing an NTFS issue.

http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:persistence_for_dummies

If you are using an NTFS file system it can only be mounted in read-only mode unless you install ntfs-3g.
That means your tce dirrectory cannot be on an NTFS filesystem without  remastering.

http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:start#remastering

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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2013, 09:19:39 PM »
I'm guessing an NTFS issue.

http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:persistence_for_dummies

If you are using an NTFS file system it can only be mounted in read-only mode unless you install ntfs-3g.
That means your tce dirrectory cannot be on an NTFS filesystem without  remastering.

http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:start#remastering
my hdd is NTFS. but I'm running tcl from a flashdrive. And tce directory is on th flash drive as well. It is formatted in FAT16.

Oh wait, you mean I need to install ntfs-3g in order to work with any ntfs partition, right?
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Re: Install tiny core extension offline
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2013, 09:35:05 PM »
If you want to write to it, yes.