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Offline bigpcman

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internet browser recommendations
« on: December 01, 2008, 07:57:09 AM »
Is there a recommended internet browser for tinycore?
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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2008, 08:14:06 AM »
Opera, for it's light and fast, and does not download a 60mb filter database.
We also have a customized, fast build of Firefox 3 available, named as minefield (Mozilla policy), which does not do this filtering, if you like FF more.

Text mode browser links and light browser chimera are also in the repo.
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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2008, 08:29:45 AM »
Firefox works great.

How do I get flash to work or what ever else is required to view youtube videos?

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I tried down loading the flash tar.gz file and running the install file but I get an error that I have a glibc library older than 2.3. Is there a newer one I need to load?
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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2008, 09:41:24 AM »
Flash 10 is not compatible with us unfortunately; please use 9 or 10 beta 2.
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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2008, 10:09:26 AM »
I looked around on the adobe and adobe labs sites for 10 beta 2 and didn't see it listed. Could you provide a dl link?
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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2008, 10:19:12 AM »
I can't find it anywhere on their site; it could be in the archive zip though:
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14266
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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2008, 07:55:27 PM »
I have my libflashplayer (flash9) in a tcz and it works great with both Opera and Minefield using OSS.
Wish I could distribute it.
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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2008, 03:48:37 AM »
I can't find it anywhere on their site; it could be in the archive zip though:
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14266
I have downloaded the Flash 9 archive from Adobe and trying to install the flash plugin. I am also getting the error "your glibc library is older than 2.3, although I have glib2 running (installed from glib2.tczl).

I don't know how to give the path of glib2 to the installer or I may be missing something. Please help.

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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2008, 04:03:42 AM »
Oh never use the Adobe installers. Ever.

Just copy libflashplayer.so and .xpt to your browser's plugin folder, restart browser.

There is a reason why even Ubuntu goes around the Adobe installer in it's package :)

Edit: glib and glibc are different things. Our glibc is 2.3.6, enough for flash 9, but flash 10 wants 2.4, among other dependencies, so out it goes.
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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2008, 05:14:37 AM »
Oh never use the Adobe installers. Ever.

Just copy libflashplayer.so and .xpt to your browser's plugin folder, restart browser.

There is a reason why even Ubuntu goes around the Adobe installer in it's package :)

Edit: glib and glibc are different things. Our glibc is 2.3.6, enough for flash 9, but flash 10 wants 2.4, among other dependencies, so out it goes.
There is no .xpt only .so. I copied it to /usr/local/lib/opera/plugins but the browser fails to detect it.

On Ubuntu also I have only .so (no .xpt) and it works.

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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2008, 06:46:33 AM »
I googled and found this thread on Ubuntuforums. It seems Opera can't detect libflashplayer.so

I edited the opera binary in /usr/local/bin and added these lines as suggested in the thread:
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# Flash workaround.
LD_PRELOAD="libflashplayer.so:${LD_PRELOAD}"
export LD_PRELOAD
above this line:
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# Workarounds for the "preloaded libXt" problem.

and it works.

But it works on Ubuntu 8.04 Opera without any hacking. I will check that bin file on Ubuntu later whether this workaround exists there.

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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2008, 06:56:24 AM »
Could you try "opera -debugplugin" on TC with and without that workaround?
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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2008, 08:39:18 AM »
Could you try "opera -debugplugin" on TC with and without that workaround?
Meanwhile I had a reboot and the opera bin file on reboot did not contain the workaround but it could detect the plugin. Then I thought that the plugin path might be saved in config files on /home/tc/. files. So I rebooted in a new /home/tc without any hidden config files. Opera came with first boot asking to accept the T&C and it did not detect any plugin since there was none. Then I copied the libflashplayer.so to /usr/local/lib/opera/plugins and restarted Opera and it detected the plugin without any workaround.

I don't know what is different this time.

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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2008, 01:20:48 AM »
Could you try "opera -debugplugin" on TC with and without that workaround?
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operapluginwrapper: [plugin failed ] dlopen(RTLD_NOW | RTLD_GLOBAL) failed on /usr/local/lib/opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so
operapluginwrapper: [plugin failed ] With error libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
operapluginwrapper: [plugin failed ] Retrying with dlopen(RTLD_LAZY | RTLD_GLOBAL)

operapluginwrapper: [plugin failed ] dlopen failed on /usr/local/lib/opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so
operapluginwrapper: [plugin failed ] With error libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

operapluginwrapper: [plugin probing] /usr/local/lib/opera/plugins/libflashsupport-normal.so
operapluginwrapper: [plugin failure] No NPP_GetMIMEDescription
operapluginwrapper: [plugin failure] No NPP_GetValue
operapluginwrapper: [plugin probing] dlclose returned : 0
operapluginwrapper: [plugin probing] Return value : 1 File : /usr/local/lib/opera/plugins/libflashsupport-normal.so
opera: X Shared memory extension is not available. ZPixmap not supported
Actually workaround is not required but glib2 and gtk2 is required. When I install leafpad which requires gtk2 the dependency is satisfied and I get the following:
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operapluginwrapper: [plugin probing] /usr/local/lib/opera/plugins/libflashsupport.so
operapluginwrapper: [plugin failure] No NPP_GetMIMEDescription
operapluginwrapper: [plugin failure] No NPP_GetValue
operapluginwrapper: [plugin probing] dlclose returned : 0
operapluginwrapper: [plugin probing] Return value : 1 File : /usr/local/lib/opera/plugins/libflashsupport.so

operapluginwrapper: [plugin probing] /usr/local/lib/opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so
operapluginwrapper: [plugin probing] MIMEDescription             : present
operapluginwrapper: [plugin probing] NPPVpluginNameString        : present
operapluginwrapper: [plugin probing] NPPVpluginDescriptionString : present
operapluginwrapper: [plugin probing] dlclose returned : 0
operapluginwrapper: [plugin probing] Return value : 0 File : /usr/local/lib/opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so
opera: X Shared memory extension is not available. ZPixmap not supported
opera: plugin detection successful: /usr/local/lib/opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so
I checked by watching youtube movies. It is ok including sound.

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« Last Edit: December 10, 2008, 07:35:04 PM by kagashe »

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Re: internet browser recommendations
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2008, 12:30:30 PM »
Flash needing gtk2 would be a good detail to add to the info for opera, could save others from pulling hair.  I have flash stored locally and just symlink after a live-cd boot and loading a browser.  I noticed one time I tried opera shortly after a boot it wouldnt load flash, but did not give it much thought.  I must admit I am favorable and comfortable with FF, but the depencies can be quite cumbersome with only 256MB RAM.  :o