Tiny Core Linux
Tiny Core Base => TCB Talk => Topic started by: jls on April 03, 2010, 07:22:00 AM
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Yikes, of the hundreds of times I've invoked tce-load -w and not once did I need ondemand immediately after..
Wouldn't make sense to autolaunch it every time.
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why not everytime?
of course if I tce-load -w transmission, only transmossion should be cheched for menu item and not it's deps
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As I said above, I haven't ever needed to use ondemand right after tce-load -w so far. It would be a major annoyance to me, and I guess to others as well.
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so, when do u use ondemand ?
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when from the appbrowser I choose ondemand, means that I need that extension, but not onboot, so I always go to cpanel - ondemand
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I have many things I wouldn't like in a menu; rarely used, command-line, others.
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Jls, you may only use such for applications, many others use such for many types of extensiions.
Since there is no distinction for base applications from any other extension, it is not going to happen. BTW, I am removing OnDemand from the control panel, as it is not universal and only applies to flwm.
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Jls, you may only use such for applications, many others use such for many types of extensiions.
Since there is no distinction for base applications from any other extension, it is not going to happen. BTW, I am removing OnDemand from the control panel, as it is not universal and only applies to flwm.
TC knows when a tcz is an application or not, if the is a menu/icon entry.
Sorry for repeating, my proposal doesn't slow too much the extension loading since the check (temporary tcz mount) should be done only to the app requested and not to de deps
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It is not worth it.
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Here is what I am going to do...
Make an option, an additional button, in appbrowser, that one can download and have it auto added into the ondemand menu. Still only flwm* support at this time. No change to the command line tools.
So appbrowser will have three action buttons enabled when an extension is selected..
Install - will download, update system menu and onboot.lst.
DwnLoad - download only.
OnDemand - will download and update the ondemand menu.
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the ondemand button in appbroser could create a file (appname.desktop) in /usr/local/share/applications.
In this file there shouldn't simple be the name of the binary, but a call to appname.ondemand.
This appname.odemand could be similar to the file which creates the 2.10 ondemand script, with this 2 addon:
- if the app is not in tce/optional it should be downloaded
- the real app should be launched with a parameter (filename)
usr/local/share/applications should be added to filetool.lst
/usr/local/share/application-registry is also something that could be considered.
why only flwm?
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You are not aware of the programming that is in process. I am glad that you have such an interest in this, but until I see compliance with non-X programs being fully supported with current DE extensions that claim freedesktop compilance, it will remain as I stated. OnDemand is not going to include download scripts.
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...... OnDemand is not going to include download scripts.
why not?
I explain u again why I think it's a good idea.
This is a nomadic distro, meaning that I can travel with mydata or even have it on an ftp site.
I can decide to travel without my tce collection cause it's too big.
In mydata there is ~/.wmx/Ondemand, but this won't work, it will work if u add tce-load -w
If I'm wrong plz explain me why
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You are not aware of the programming that is in process......
is it a secret?
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You are not aware of the programming that is in process.
A request for awareness was recently made in this topic:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=5488.0
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I guess you failed to read:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=5537.msg29428#msg29428
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=5555.msg29705#msg29705
The attitude of late is really waring on me. These words of "I am right, your wrong!" Prove me wrong. This must.., This should... What is it a secret... You need to be reporting to us. Smacks of management meeting.
No thanks!
What happended to civility?
When one gives of one's time and effort freely to others, you would think others would be more respectful.
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I think there is an appbrowser-cli.tcz extension. If someone really wanted to make things go in a different way, he/she has code and clues to do so.
Yeah, I am stating that even as I posted this (http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=5075.0). A suggestion should not be a petition, much less a demand. If it does not resemble one of the later, that is a bonus too.
Suggestions to decrease workload should be always welcome. Suggestions to increase workload, seldomly would do. If you think it is one of the former but the one that does the actual coding thinks it is one of the later, don't persist.
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I guess you failed to read:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=5537.msg29428#msg29428
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=5555.msg29705#msg29705
The attitude of late is really waring on me. These words of "I am right, your wrong!" Prove me wrong. This must.., This should... What is it a secret... You need to be reporting to us. Smacks of management meeting.
No thanks!
What happended to civility?
When one gives of one's time and effort freely to others, you would think others would be more respectful.
Perhaps you are the thin-skinned one?
I have the most respect for your work but zero respect for the way you deal with suggestions.
On other linux forums, discussions are mostly open and amicable ( eg look at puppylinux boards); here, when suggestions are voiced, you quite often lose your cool. You merely have to look at the numerous threads where suggestions have been made to see the extremes people go through to try and make suggestions without provoking you. Extremes which I have never noticed on other forums:
The team is doing a great job now, and Tiny Core is continually improving. If you don't have time, I understand.
If Robert and the team don't agree, or think it is unnecessary, I will accept the decision.
I am just sharing my thoughts.
I am only making suggestions. I accept that others may have different ideas
(Your response: Are we now at a "make work" requests state? )
This is just a suggestion. You decide if you think it is a good idea.
I wonder if tcl's default mode should perhaps be tce/mount (or tce/install)?
(you lost your cool)
Sometimes a different perspective is very helpful.
What is really weird, is that numerous time when suggestions have been made, you apparently first rejected these, arguing them down, only for those exact same suggestions or very similar ones appearing later on as improvements without so much as a nod to the original person who made a suggestion. Perhaps I am wrong, but it does seem as if you are sometimes adopting good ideas by stealth. I assume this is not your deliberate intention but care is needed. This applies whether you are doing all this in your spare time or not.
"I am done."
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And as usual jur piles on. I have come to expect that. Always has to have the last word. Watch.