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Title: Phantom Operating System
Post by: bmarkus on January 08, 2010, 12:51:59 AM
Talking about operating systems, there is something interesting, Phantom OS a Russian way. Quote from their WEB site:

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Why a new OS?

The most obvious questions: why new operating system? Isn’t Linux enough? Of course, Linux is not enough. Being a clone of Unix, Linux conceptually is a dinosaur. Don’t be happy, Windows guys, Windows is not really far away. Lets see, what is wrong with today’s popular operating systems.

You can read whole article at http://www.dz.ru/en/solutions/phantom/why/

Oh, those Russians... :)
Title: Re: Phantom Operating System
Post by: althalus on January 08, 2010, 01:38:03 AM
Oh man....

An OS that is just a virtual machine? An OS that has no concept of files or a file system? Expecting everything to be written in java or C#? I just can't take this seriously. Surely it's just an elaborate hoax.....
Title: Re: Phantom Operating System
Post by: thane on January 08, 2010, 10:43:25 AM
It's pretty much over my head technically, but it doesn't look like a hoax.

I've seen similar criticisms of Linux before, most notably by Jaron Lanier.

Really can't complain about people trying out new ideas. If they can make this thing work more power to them.
Title: Re: Phantom Operating System
Post by: althalus on January 08, 2010, 02:29:26 PM
It's pretty much over my head technically, but it doesn't look like a hoax.

I've seen similar criticisms of Linux before, most notably by Jaron Lanier.

Really can't complain about people trying out new ideas. If they can make this thing work more power to them.
New ideas are great and all, but sometimes you've gotta wonder...

This OS will probably have a hard time finding a user base.
With no concept of files, it will have even LESS compatibility with other OS's than what currently exists between windows and linux (How do you share office documents when one OS has no concept of a file and the other OS has no concept of an object? Someone will have to compromise with an ugly hack...)
What about drivers? It takes hundreds of thousands of programmers world wide to keep drivers for windows and linux up to scratch, and even then... And these guys are a start-up OS that no one has heard of. I  don't see hardware being very accessible for it's users, at least, not in the next 10 years.

But when all is said and done, I am being rather cynical, and it doesn't hurt to be proven wrong every now and then.
Title: Re: Phantom Operating System
Post by: Guy on January 08, 2010, 03:08:43 PM
To start a new operating system is a huge task.

If someone thought of genuine improvements, there is no reason why a Linux distro could not be made a little different from the standard. This would be much easier.
Title: Re: Phantom Operating System
Post by: bmarkus on January 09, 2010, 05:39:07 AM
Embedded systems are better target, like DVD players, air to air missiles, etc.
Title: Re: Phantom Operating System
Post by: gerald_clark on January 09, 2010, 06:59:23 AM
Yeh, I like the idea of new, unproven operating systems in air-to-air missiles.