Tiny Core Linux
Tiny Core Base => CorePlus => Topic started by: ulfr on September 22, 2017, 08:14:58 PM
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hi tinycore team and everyone
i am trying out coreplus 8.2 on an acer aspire E 17 laptop
most stuff works great
i notice when you download tcc
only the deps are loaded not tcc itself
i have an odd problem with the sound
some videos will play ( the one that will is an flv )
most will not
i have a problem with the laptop mouse pad
it only has 1 button
no left or right buttons
but a usb mouse is recognized correctly
will keep playing
and report my experiences
thanks everyone for this great distro
tinycore is by far the best designed linux distro
ulfr
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also the laptop has 4 gigs of ram
but coreplus 8.2 only recognizes 2 gigs
ulfr
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there was an error in the tcc dep file - it has been corrected now - thanks for reporting this.
I see 3.4gb ram out of 4gb on a 16gb machine, which sounds about right...
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thanks tcc download works now
as to sound
i loaded latest firefox
and all the alsa stuff
and pulseaudio
and alsa mixer
turned on alsa master which helped
still doesn't play sound for all the videos in the browser
no youtube or news videos
but plays a lot of them
i will keep playing and post
thanks for this masterpiece
ulfr
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thanks tcc download works now
as to sound
i loaded latest firefox
and all the alsa stuff
and pulseaudio
and alsa mixer
turned on alsa master which helped
still doesn't play sound for all the videos in the browser
no youtube or news videos
but plays a lot of them
i will keep playing and post
thanks for this masterpiece
ulfr
PulseAudio should work, however I simply use apulse which avoids pulseaudio completely, you will of course need alsa working and possibly flash installed to listen to Youtube.
a script to download and install apulse extension can be obtained from
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,21268.msg132892.html#msg132892
PS. I haven't yet tested this script with the recent busybox update..
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thanks tcc download works now
as to sound
i loaded latest firefox
and all the alsa stuff
and pulseaudio
and alsa mixer
turned on alsa master which helped
still doesn't play sound for all the videos in the browser
no youtube or news videos
but plays a lot of them
i will keep playing and post
thanks for this masterpiece
ulfr
Usually I'd do:
tce-load -i alsa-config
tce-load -i alsa
alsactrl init
aplay /usr/local/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
It's recommended to load alsa-config before alsa. :)
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thanks for all the help
coreplayer2
used your script
seemed to compile fine
but no change
does it place a binary in firefox
i couldn't find anything to load in apps
loaded alsa-config
then alsa
then alsamixergui and unmuted the master
vlc will play the downloaded files with sound
and some files have sound in firefox
but not all sites or youtube
when i type in alsactrl init
it says alsactrl not found
anyway i will chug along
since videos play with sound in vlc and some in the browser
it must be some browser plug in missing
i guess
this is the first time i put tinycore on this computer
looks beautiful
awesome
ulfr
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when i type in alsactrl init
it says alsactrl not found
Oops!
Typo.
tc@box:~$ alsactl init
Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "VIA VT1708S" "HDA:11060397,10438346,00100000" "0x1043" "0x8346"
Hardware is initialized using a generic method
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thanks for all the help
coreplayer2
used your script
seemed to compile fine
but no change
does it place a binary in firefox
i couldn't find anything to load in apps
ulfr
The script creates an " apulse.tcz " extension which requires loading onboot and you should rfind it in APPS > Maintenance > Onboot, load only
alsa-config.tcz (if required)
alsa.tcz
apulse
flash.tcz
firefox.tcz
Apulse does not replace any firefox component. Temporarily (due AIUI to a lack of Mozilla developers familiar with alsa) Firefox requires a pulseaudio input to pipe audio through to alsa. Apulse provides compatible PulseAudio libraries (with many less features and overhead of pulseaudio) between applications like Firefox and ALSA. This extension is created with firefox in mind, but may work with other apps..? If you need pulseaudio for other audio applications I'd advise the full pulseaudio extension instead.
In practice I often find the use of "YouTube Flash-HTML" plugin to switch between flash or HTML5 players resolves sound redirection with youtube in firefox.
I use all of the above in all TC-7 & TC-8 versions daily, but occasionally I find a reboot is required to achieve sound
good luck
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thanks for all the help
i am digesting all your info
will post when i have tried everything
and thanks for making tinycore
its a masterpiece
ulfr
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i would like to edit/delete the above post
i am still having trouble with sound in firefox
however still working on it
another issue i would like to mention
is that tcc will compile a program
but that program will seg fault
gcc will compile and run fine
any ideas
thanks again
ulfr
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Hi ulfr
i would like to edit/delete the above post
PM me what you would like done and I'll take care of it for you.
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thanks rich
if you could
just delete the post where i say that i got sound working on youtube
2 posts up
it worked one time but then i couldn't reproduce it
i'm still working on it
and i dont want to people reading this to think it will work
thanks again
ulfr
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Hi ulfr
Done.
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[...]
APPS > Maintenance > Onboot, load only
alsa-config.tcz (if required)
alsa.tcz
apulse
flash.tcz
firefox.tcz
[...]
Yay, found a missing ".tcz" (apulse). I'm watching you. :p
Nah, I just don't wont people to get confused. Even though that's a typo the finder might keep; better save than sorry.
Every Tinycore extension (currently) has the .tcz file name extension.
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hi guys
loaded
alsa-config.tcz
alsa.tcz
pulseaudio.tcz
flash is loaded in firefox
firefoxESR.tcz
some sites play sound vimeo and other sites
some do not youtube
just a question
i have linux mint 8.2 xfce with firefox and their addons
plays everything
can this be cannibalized to make a firefox + addons tcz
might save some work
since they will get the stuff together each release
they will also support flatpaks in 8.3
cannibalize a firefox one
maybe make a script
load up mint plus addons
script makes a tcz
ulfr
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ok lets analyze this
correct me if im wrong
sound plays fine on computer
sound plays fine on some websites
adding deleting plug ins changes what sites will play
ff in mint plays all sites fine
ff in mint has a load of different plug ins
its got to be one or more missing plug ins for firefox
how can i get all the plug ins mint has and put them in ff in tinycore or
how can i transfer the ff and its plug ins from mint to tiny core
dont know its quite a maze of links and binaries in there
but thats my mission
couldnt even think of doing this with any other distro
tinycore is a leggo set
best designed distro there is
i looove tinycore --- wolfman jack
ulfr
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Do you have Pulseaudio running?
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@ulfr it’s possible and quite likely mint have compiled ff with Alsa support since AIUI the alsa code is still present in ff source code. Mozilla simply disabled alsa support for whatever the reason... meanwhile the Mozilla developers have built in support for pulseaudio. Their reasoning is pulseaudio resolves all of their sound issues and is provided by most larger distro’s by default.
This move to support pulseaudio doesn’t help us at all, leaving us with only a few options..
You could compile ff with alsa support as pre-v52.0 once did.
It’s not practical to compile each new ff release for the tcz repo as their latest version often makes the last extension obsolete before it had chance to make it into the repo!!
The easy solution is to install “pavucontrol” extension and use it to configure pulseaudio (which is not intuitive when it comes to configuration of hardware and streams).
If you don’t mind the overhead then use pulseaudio, or better still use pavucontrol extension which provides an intuitive graphical interface with pulseaudio providing easy hardware configuration. Audio stream redirection and a volume control to boot!
Apulse works great in most scenarios. However since it provides only a few features from the full pulseaudio you may find it doesn’t support your specific hardware configuration.
In which case you have to install the full pulseaudio application.
Unless you are familiar with configuration of pulse audio I’d simply install pavucontrol
Most website developers test their multimedia on the main os’s and major distro’s only which leaves us a little in the dark as to which additional audio extensions we need to load to provide support for our fav web sites.
Despite popular stories to the contrary Flash is still used by most multimedia websites. You’ll always need the latest version of flash installed for those sites which fail to function without the latest version.
Sorry if I made any typo’s, it’s hard to write more than a few words on Tapatalk. I’ll review the post ASAP on a PC
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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thanks for all the help and info
seems like a very complex issue
and possibly will get only more so with firefox 57 etc
i loaded pulseaudio.tcz so i guess it is running
i would like to make a tcz
or what i often use a directory linked in
(so it doesn't have to be squashed)
and include as much of firefox and its add ons as possible
so one could easily switch between different ff versions on the same core
since mint seems to have set up a version of firefox that has all this
why not use that to start
by just copying out what they have into a link dir
no reason to duplicate work already done
however its a maze of links in there
so ill have to figure out what i need and where it is
anyway it will be a lot of fun
my work around now is that i just download the videos
and play them in vlc
any ideas on doing this are appreciated (but only if you have the time)
thanks again
ulfr
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Did you follow the instructions ?
http://tinycorelinux.net/8.x/x86/tcz/pulseaudio.tcz.info
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Hi ulfr
i loaded pulseaudio.tcz so i guess it is running
Loading an extension does not mean it's running.
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no i didnt do anthing but load the tcz
will follow the instructions
thanks much
ulfr
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hi all
have set up pulseaudio per instructions
now all the sites i have tested work
you guys are awesome
and so is tinycore
thanks for all your great work
ulfr