Tiny Core Linux
Tiny Core Base => TCB Q&A Forum => Topic started by: 3guesses on August 15, 2015, 05:47:49 AM
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Hi,
I'm a newbie to TinyCore (and no Linux expert, either), so apologies if this is a simple problem to overcome.
I have installed TC on my laptop (Lenovo N500) which has an external display connected via VGA. This display supports 1920x1080x32 @60Hz (on Windows, anyway) but TC does not seem to recognise this - here is the output when I run Xvesa from the control panel:
Tiny Core Linux - Xvesa Resolution Setup
1. 640x480x16
2. 640x480x24
3. 800x600x16
4. 800x600x24
5. 1024x768x16
6. 1024x768x24
7. 1280x1024x16
8. 1280x1024x24
9. 1280x800x16
10. 1280x800x24
11. 1600x1200x16
12. 1600x1200x24
13. 1920x1440x16
14. 1920x1440x24
15. 1920x1440x8
Enter selection ( 1 - 15 ) or (q)uit:
I am currently running at 1600x1200x24 (I didn't want to risk any of the 1920x1440 options) but I would rather be running at 1920x1080x32. Is this easy to do?
Thanks,
3g
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Xvesa can only use the VESA options supported by your BIOS.
Use Xorg instead along with the hardware driver for your hardware.
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OK, so to do that I guess I need to use "Apps" to download Xorg and an ATI driver? I can see an Xorg-7.7.tcz which I presume is the Xorg app I need, but what do I do for my video card driver?
Thanks,
3g
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Hi 3guesses
I can see an Xorg-7.7.tcz which I presume is the Xorg app I need, ...
Yes. And you probably want xf86-video-ati.tcz
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Hi 3guesses
I can see an Xorg-7.7.tcz which I presume is the Xorg app I need, ...
Yes. And you probably want xf86-video-ati.tcz
Great, thanks. So I've downloaded both of those packages - what do I do with them exactly?
3g
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What do you meanyou "downloaded" them?
You should have done "tce-load -iw Xorg-7.7 xf86-video-ati" or installed "onboot" from Apps.
Use Apps to add them "onboot" and remove "Xvesa" from onboot.
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What do you meanyou "downloaded" them?
You should have done "tce-load -iw Xorg-7.7 xf86-video-ati" or installed "onboot" from Apps.
Use Apps to add them "onboot" and remove "Xvesa" from onboot.
OK, well I wasn't exactly sure what I was doing so in "Apps" I had selected the "Download Only" option. Anyway, I used the "OnBoot Maintenance" to add those 2 packages and remove Xvesa, but after rebooting I have just ended up with a "tc@box:~$" prompt. I've tried running "startx" but it's coming back with lots of errors: "cat: can't open '/etc/sysconfig/Xserver': No such file or directory" followed by lots of "usb 2-3:" errors. So what now?
Edit: I don't know if it's important, but TinyCore is installed in a dedicated logical partition on my laptop.
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As a first step you can try to get back your old Xvesa X server after typing
tce-load -i Xvesa.tcz
and, if succesful,
startx
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"can't open '/etc/sysconfig/Xserver" means you did not load Xorg-7.7
Check your onboot.lst.
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OK, I managed to get Xvesa back up and running, so I repeated the process (Manage OnBoot: remove Xvesa, add xf86-video-ati.tcz and Xorg-7.7-lib.tcz), checked onboot.lst (looked correct), rebooted and exactly the same problem. Then I realised that it's not this laptop with the ATI video card (I'm playing around with 2 laptops at the moment and got confused) - it uses an Intel Mobile GMA 4500 so I shall see if I can find the right xf86 driver package for it!
3g
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It is not Xorg-7.7-lib.tcz , It is Xorg-7.7.tcz
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It is not Xorg-7.7-lib.tcz , It is Xorg-7.7.tcz
Aha! That seems to have been the problem. It was very late when I was doing this - I thought I had selected Xorg-7.7.tcz for download, but clearly not. My display now seems to be running at 1920x1080 (how can I check?) Thanks, and well spotted.
Next problem: I've started up Firefox and the window menubar is off the top of the screen and the bottom of the window is off the bottom of the screen! How do I move/re-size it to fit on my screen?!?!?
3g
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xrandr will show you the current and available modes.
lxrandr will let you do it graphically.
Try <ALT><Left mouse button> and move the mouse.
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Hi 3guesses
Next problem: I've started up Firefox and the window menubar is off the top of the screen and the bottom of the window is off the bottom of the screen! How do I move/re-size it to fit on my screen?!?!?
Try hitting Ctrl-Alt-M once or twice.
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and if its not too rude to suggest a desktop,
fluxbox is a small desktop that offers a panel at top of screen
If you are right handed RH click the name of the app in the panel and left click the maximise button to maximise the app......as per attachment
If you click the maximise again, it resizes smaller
works for me and good luck
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gerald_clark, Rich, gordon64: Thanks very much, all really helpful.
Slight problem: I have installed fluxbox and now I have strange goings on with the TC Wbar. I have Firefox to run on boot, and when I launch it from the Wbar the WiFi icon/app disappears from the Wbar and a second Firefox icon/app takes its place. If I open tcWbarConf and click Apply, The Wifi icon/app reappears but then disappears again as soon as I close tc-wbarconf... Very strange! Any thoughts?
3g
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Hi
I have Firefox to run on boot, and when I launch it from the Wbar the WiFi icon/app disappears from the Wbar and a second Firefox icon/app takes its place
I read this as meaning you have firefox in your "boot" list and not already opening or running on your desktop. I may be wrong.
but unable to replicate the issue on x86 (32 bit).
clicking an item in the tc-wbarconf click apply and then move it back it back click apply does nothing to my icons other than what is expected. No second icon appears for me.
If you mean, it is running when desktop opens are you using .X.d?
Otherwise I will leave it to the gurus to answer.
;D
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Yes, sorry if I wasn't clear - I had previously downloaded firefox.tcz and then added it to onboot. As such, the last 3 icons on my TC Wbar are firefox, TC_Install and Wifi. When I click on the "firefox" icon, Firefox opens, the Wifi icon disappears and a "Mozilla Firefox" icon appears in its place. Interestingly, this doesn't happen if I haven't made a Wifi connection. (Aside: should the Wifi icon change once I have connected? Mine always stays the same with the red "pulse" lines.) Also, if I click on the "Mozilla Firefox" icon it takes focus back to the running instance of Firefox, whereas if I click on the "firefox" icon again it starts a new instance/window of Firefox which then gobbles up the "TC_Install" icon... If I the close down this second instance/window, the "firefox" together with one of the "Mozilla Firefox" icons then disappear from the TC Wbar! If I then close the first instance of Firefox, I lose the "Mozilla Firefox" and another icon (ezremaster?) from TC Wbar.
3g
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Make sure you don't have any firefox ondemand entries.
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Yes, I can confirm that I have no OnDemand entries.
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Maybe check /usr/local/tce.icons for duplicate entries.
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Nope, no duplicates in tce.icons. I presume you wanted me to check after a reboot, ie before I started any apps?
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Hi 3guesses,
have you got the screen resolution you wanted (see subject)? If yes, the poblem is solved.
Disappearing wbar icons in another window manager are imho another problem, which should be discussed in a new thread. Why? There are perhaps users with the same problem searching for a solution. They won't find it under your subject.
Volker
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volkerp
thats my fault for leading the Original Poster astray.
3guesses
Now that I know which firefox you are referring to, I have another suggestion. My fluxbox test was using the firefox from firefox-latest, a locally produced TCZ called firefox-official
Altho I am acutely aware I might be told off again, its seems to me, your issue may disappear if you use a recent version of firefox and not some very old version?
If you can afford the download of another more recent firefox, use firefox-latest to do that.
remove firefox (old) from your onboot list
---firefox-latest should put a new entry into your onboot list called firefox-official after its done its job
------check your onboot list before rebooting
Later on, I suggest you delete (old) firefox.tcz from your tcedir.
2) Now comes the fun bit......make that firefox have a blank home page.
This should resolve firefox trying to get the internet that you have just reported.
You can always use bookmarks after establishing an wifi connection....OK?
I have a tower, but I do know that wifi connections can and do take time to establish. This is the most likely reason why firefox is trying to load a page it can't get to, if your home page is set to the internet.
Now you need to do one more reboot to prove if I am right or continually wrong eh.
3) If those suggestions don't work, then start a new thread for each issue, but sometimes but not always, its is easier to trouble-shoot one issue knowing that you have other issues.
this does not excuse my behaviour in leading you astray....just saying ;D
good luck
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Hi volkerp,
Yes, good point - I shall start a new thread for the disappearing icons issue.
3g
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BTW, I think the FAQ should have an entry describing how to set resolutions that Xvesa doesn't list.
3g
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Please feel free to add this to the wiki :)