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Tiny Core Extensions => TCE Talk => Topic started by: cast-fish on April 27, 2012, 05:42:07 AM

Title: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on April 27, 2012, 05:42:07 AM
Hello

tried fresh CD boots of tcl 4.5

then installed

1) sound (working)
2) Browser (Firefox working)
3) getFLASH11  (seemed to work)

but you don't get any flash when web browsing..

i tried the same as above again with Opera11 and it was the same story. Tried it all again with OperaNext and it was the same story

is flash broken in tcl 4.5?

can it be fixed

thanks

V.

Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: coreplayer2 on April 27, 2012, 07:27:04 AM
Am glad this is not just me, have been looking at this myself - thought it was something I did wrong. :(  On a frugal install on an old machine we updated, ran getflash11, it appears to create flash11 in the plugins directory yet the plugin doesn't load.  have uninstalled all browsers and getflash11 and flash11.  Have re-downloaded many browsers and of course getflash11 yet still plugin despite it being present does not load..

For me, this does not occur in all pc's, eg some updated VM's it works fine.   I hate those intermittent faults.. :p
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: Rich on April 27, 2012, 07:38:50 AM
Hi cast-fish
Please don't double post. You already started a thread 1 and 1/2 hours earlier on the same problem here:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,13151.msg72583.html#msg72583
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on April 27, 2012, 07:41:23 AM
ok sorry Rich....i just thought that the problem was kind of going to affect quite a few people...so i posted it where it may get seen.

seems others also are experiencing the flash not working.



Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: Rich on April 27, 2012, 07:57:19 AM
hi cast-fish
You don't start threads where you hope they will be seen. You start them under the correct forum subject. In this
case under Tiny Core Extensions->TCE Talk, which is where your threads have been moved to. It has nothing
to do with Tinycore Base and has not yet been established as an extension bug.

Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on April 27, 2012, 08:35:50 AM
right Rich

Thx

V
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on April 27, 2012, 09:53:07 AM
hello

Rich

like coreplayer also says, the flash issue with 4.5 seems to affect older
hardware. My 2005 dekstop machine does not have the flash problem in tcl 4.5

my other machine is a 2001 laptop...compaq presario

V
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on April 27, 2012, 09:58:35 AM
Hello

The flash issue happens with both tcl 4.5 and 4.3.1 on the older laptop machine  (2001)

The newer 2005 desktop machine is fine with both tcl versions and flash.

V.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: curaga on April 27, 2012, 10:16:32 AM
Check the dmesg on the old laptop after running flash, maybe the latest flash needs a newer cpu.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on April 27, 2012, 11:17:31 AM
hello

uh the dmesg file is here. What am i looking for?

Dmesg was made after running a browser page that needed flash

V

Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: Rich on April 27, 2012, 11:42:57 AM
Hi cast-fish
System requirements according to the Adobe website:
Quote
512MB of RAM; 128MB of graphics memory
According to dmesg you have 240MB of RAM.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on April 27, 2012, 12:36:20 PM
hello

oh...

is there any method of doing tcl flash then on a 256 ram machine?

do you believe that is the issue?

V
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: curaga on April 27, 2012, 12:41:44 PM
If flash had required a newer cpu, there should've been a mention of an illegal instruction.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: Rich on April 27, 2012, 12:48:13 PM
Hi cast-fish
Those are the requirements stated by Adobe.
Run syslogd
Try playing some flash content
Check the end of  dmesg
Check /var/log/messages
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on April 27, 2012, 01:04:09 PM
Hello

will do that syslog

Seems the new flash may have alienated millions of machines then...(it has always been heavy on mempry right)

V.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: robc on April 27, 2012, 03:28:44 PM
The getFlash11 extension has the ability to create older versions of flash11 into an extension.  Just run
Code: [Select]
~> getFlash11.sh FLASH_VER_NUM where the FLASH_VER_NUM is the flash 11 version that you want to use.  There should be a list of all the versions somewhere on the Adobe site...

Edit:
I am running 4.5 and do not have problems with flash11 in firefox and chromium.  Though, I also have 4GB of RAM.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on April 27, 2012, 03:33:35 PM
rob

that is great advice and i really appreciate it.


so i run a terminal and

$ getflash11.sh (then the exact number of the required flash version)

i will see

thanks very much indeed.

V
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: tinypoodle on April 27, 2012, 03:36:02 PM
Hardware incompatibility issues with the last - literally!! - flashplayer version appear to be common. Known workaround: downgrading...   ;)
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on April 27, 2012, 03:46:58 PM
yes...wonder how many machines fail to run the new flash....jeeps

V
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: solorin on April 27, 2012, 08:16:33 PM
quvi.tcz is in the repository.

it will parse video sites URLs.
then you can send them to mplayer for streaming

the invocation is
quvi URL --exec "mplayer %u"

from my days of using firefox, i remember there being lots of  plugins
that dealt with flash. flash video replacer always worked well for me.

i never felt adobe meant for flash to be a full fledged citizen of linux.
so I tried to avoid them mostly.

cheerio,
solorin
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: tinypoodle on April 27, 2012, 10:37:49 PM
There may be many more or less satisfying alternatives to using flashplayer in order to stream videos, but not addressing most other implementations of flashplayer content.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on April 28, 2012, 07:02:09 AM
Yes Tinypoodle...

it just seemed mad to me that an adobe upgrade would not really draw attention about it's ram
demand doubling?. Wonder how many Linux machines will have owners who simply
can't work this bug out. They may not be on chat forums and just find they have a broken browser.

Maybe some auto script from adobe tests the hardware ram and only installs a working
version?. (but that didn't seem to be the case)

Yes soloran, your idea was mentioned before but it didn't seem to work. Terminal reported
it could find the --exec mplayer thing. (syntax?)

yes, ofcourse, there is minitube isn't there. Although that tcz was having some issues a while
back.

i have still not done the dmesg "ram count check" as advised by Rich. But i will do so. Don't really
know if ram is the issue yet, but it seems to be where it's headed to.

Tinycore is nice when it's working with a proper browser because it's low power keeps this laptop
silent. Nice for watching web streams and things.

thanks

V.

Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: tinypoodle on April 28, 2012, 07:20:56 AM
Yes Tinypoodle...

it just seemed mad to me that an adobe upgrade would not really draw attention about it's ram
demand doubling?. Wonder how many Linux machines will have owners who simply
can't work this bug out. They may not be on chat forums and just find they have a broken browser.

Maybe some auto script from adobe tests the hardware ram and only installs a working
version?. (but that didn't seem to be the case)

I never implied anything about amount of RAM, I referred to
Quote
Hardware incompatibility issues
If I needed to speculate, I would place an issue with amount of RAM as a rather unlikely possibility.

Forums are platfoms where users share experiences, and they get indexed by search engines...  ;)
More direct exchange of experiences could happen on IRC.

A browser can not be considered broken when some plugin from some 3rd party manufacturer is broken, and in particular case in question it happens with various browsers.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: solorin on April 28, 2012, 07:24:29 AM
you need to have mplayer loaded

try with single dash.

cheerio,
solorin
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on April 29, 2012, 03:08:35 AM
Hello

oh Tinypoodle. I had made an incorrect assumption about your initial hardware comment

 :-\

V
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on April 29, 2012, 04:44:15 AM
soloron


terminal just reporst  --exec not found....OR ...-exec not found

i think it needs the correct path to my mplayer right?...which is what?

V
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: solorin on April 29, 2012, 08:20:17 AM
my bad.

quvi URL --exec="mplayer %u"

should work.

No, you don't have to specify mplayer's path.
Extensions always put their executables in directories already specified by
the default path environment variable.
I think you can also use the video player of your choice, but I haven't tested it.

and, dude, try using the -h flag next time.
it will take you to wondrous places.
also please spell my name right.

thank you.

cheerio,
solorin
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cURIOUSgEORGE on May 09, 2012, 03:34:41 AM
I noticed flash was not working the minute that I installed Xorg, and, all youtube videos where just a grey screen, not sure if that was your problem but, if it is........ run this command .....

export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 && firefox

I'm sure it will help somebody.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on May 23, 2012, 02:03:26 AM
Hello

how many people are you getting reporting adobe flash problems?  (lately....3 weeks)

i assume the forum has 1000's of members some with older hardware right?

i can't get flash going ...any versions of 11.

V.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: curaga on May 23, 2012, 04:39:53 AM
There is nothing we can do about it. Complain to Adobe.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on May 23, 2012, 11:10:21 AM
just wondered if it's proving an issue for lots of people?

will give it all another go here.

V

Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cURIOUSgEORGE on July 11, 2012, 08:11:29 PM
God Dammit! Just did a new TCL setup and ................ . . . . . . . . .  They got me too !!!

Flash-holes!
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cURIOUSgEORGE on July 12, 2012, 12:13:13 AM
After trying for hours............... . . . . I still can't get youtube to work BUT for anybody that doesn't know ---> HTML Youtube will work.

Still sucks, but, it's something for anybody that it may help. Ridiculous. Eh...
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: malicske on July 12, 2012, 02:44:20 AM
I've come with news of joy! (For some I hope)

My setup:
Virtualbox 4.1.18
tcl 4.5.6
Xorg 7.6
Xfce4
Firefox + flash11

After tweaking and configuring => Grey screen where there should be a youtube video
When searching and looking. The damned but good looking Oxygen-gtk packages caused the grey screen.
Choosing another theme fixed the problem for me.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: tinypoodle on July 12, 2012, 02:51:42 AM
That's rather interesting...
Perhaps you should consider filing a bug report with Oxygen-gtk ;)
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: curaga on July 12, 2012, 04:06:20 AM
With Adobe having quit general linux releases, and only shipping updates inside Chrome, maybe that's the wakeup call for anyone still using flash?
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: ratracer on July 18, 2012, 11:55:16 AM
i just installed tcl4.5 last week to my ibm t40 which took about a total of 2 minutes.  i then connected to wifi in a snap and after that i went to the apps and installed chromium, ossmixer and getflashplayer11 extensions.

all seems to work flawlessly (youtube, Hulu, etc.) so far and will be the main os for this box indefinitely.   ;D

i am a newcomer here to the forums but longtime fan and user of TC since early 2010. 

Cheers to all involved with TCL!

Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: cast-fish on July 22, 2012, 03:36:52 PM
Hello .......somebody gave me a version of Adobe Flash 10...compiled for alsa sound

and it works fine on a 240 meg RAM laptop (16 megs used for video)

yes..most familiar sites seemed to work well with the Adobe above.

i mean, it keeps the old laptop working and usable.....

thanks (think it Curaga....who gave me the gift.


yes.

Have enjoyed TCL so much.....its a diamond and the forum always
make that extra effort so thanks


Vince




Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: tinypoodle on July 22, 2012, 11:52:59 PM
Hello .......somebody gave me a version of Adobe Flash 10...compiled for alsa sound

Flash player is proprietary and there is no choice of different sound system versions.
(There is a supporting lib included in OSS)

Most versions of prior releases can be downloaded from adobes archives.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: ananix on September 11, 2012, 07:55:36 AM
Hello

how many people are you getting reporting adobe flash problems?  (lately....3 weeks)

i assume the forum has 1000's of members some with older hardware right?

i can't get flash going ...any versions of 11.

V.

did you try 11.1.102.55 works on all my systems everything after that is a nogo for about half of my systems other half runs fine with the newest. TCL, RH, SL and ubuntu.

I recommend you reboot after deleting flash11 and then interrupt getFlash.sh when it auto runs, Then run it by hand with version number.
Title: Re: tcl 4.5 with flash web browsing
Post by: robc on September 11, 2012, 09:39:03 AM
I recommend you reboot after deleting flash11 and then interrupt getFlash.sh when it auto runs, Then run it by hand with version number.

You can just load getFlash11 and manually run it with the version number then reboot.  There is no need to manually remove the previous version.  The script will place the newly created flash11.tcz in the update directory of the tce directory.