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Success on HP 6910p
floppy:
Hello,
I tried TCL on this laptop. http://www.notebookjournal.de/tests/hp-6910p-14-1--417
Starting point:
- a nice hp6910p without HDD.
- USB-Adapter with CF 8GB (CF prepared with Syslinux; multiboot with different Linux; Menues adapted during the try with TCL LAN/WLAN; see below).
- LAN via Ethernet Home Adapters. WLAN in the house.
- 2 buttons+wheel USB mouse
- the laptop (TCL3.6) was in the net via LAN within few secondes. With the same method I used for my other PC, I was in my WLAN within 3 hours (Im a bit slow) after loading the intel wireless extension drivers for this laptop: see my WLAN method in http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=8001.msg43118#msg43118. I could not understand how to use WICD-radar and the whole other WIFI stuff. Sorry. I will perhaps try it in my next life or when I have to go via Wifi in foreign WLANs. Very good the new boot options mydata=hp6910pu and lst=hp6910pu.lst I could use for making different start setups for this laptop (LAN/WLAN). I can send you my hp6910pu.tgz on request.
- Knoppix booted quick into LAN. Not so quick, not so impressive than TCL. WLAN did not work because I could not make the setup (keyrings were asked. I did not understand stopped further activities).
- MagicParted has to be modified a bit for the boot code with LAN. It booted fine (not so impressive than TCL) and WLAN was very easy to connect via a good WICD menu. There is something to learn for TCL.
- Slitaz did not start the Xorg. I did not try to make it working.
Conclusion: I stay with TCL. This laptop is a space shuttle with TCL (I did not try the sound; not so important for me; on request, I can test it).
Conclusion of the conclusion: if you have such a laptop (with or without HDD), make quickly an USB-Stick or a CF-card on USB-adapter with TCL and boot it via USB. THIS IS REALLY GOOD.
Issues:
- the background "bretagne" is not coming. This could be the only reason for throwing TCL out of this pc..;-). probably in syslinux, TCL dont like the path opt/backgrounds/bretagne.jpg?
- firefox (after full screen modus, only 2 times I can made it disappearing by clicking "-" on the top right, then only the "X" button on the right top is functioning and other issues with full screen modus coming automatically.. I will post when I understand when it comes up)
# CF 8GB Syslinux.cfg
# UUID=8172-30FF
# Default boot option to use
default menu.c32
TIMEOUT 600
#Deutsche Tastaturbelegung
KBDMAP german.kbd
# Prompt user for selection
PROMPT 0
#
MENU TITLE Boot Main Menu cf 8GB which can be connected to ide adapter or usb adapter
#
F1 boot.msg
F2 f2
F3 f3
#
LABEL tcl3.6 OldBoy1 basis
MENU LABEL tcl3.6 OldBoy1 basis
KERNEL /boot/tcl/bzImage
APPEND quiet vga=ask tz=GMT+1 ide_core.ignore_cable=1 noacpi noscsi nozswap showapps tce=UUID=8172-30FF kmap=qwertz/de-latin1
initrd /boot/tcl/tinycore.gz
# ide_core.ignore_cable=1 for OldBoy1.. make different config files.. or menu for different computers?
#
LABEL tcl3.6 HP Laptop hp6910p DE LAN
MENU LABEL tcl3.6 HP Laptop hp6910p DE LAN
KERNEL /boot/tcl/bzImage
APPEND quiet vga=791 tz=GMT+1 noscsi noacpi loglevel=2 bkg=bretagne.jpg showapps tce=UUID=8172-30FF mydata=hp6910p lst=hp6910p.lst kmap=qwertz/de-latin1
initrd /boot/tcl/tinycore.gz
#
LABEL tcl3.6 HP Laptop hp6910p DE Uhl Wlan
MENU LABEL tcl3.6 HP Laptop hp6910p DE Uhl Wlan
KERNEL /boot/tcl/bzImage
APPEND quiet vga=791 tz=GMT+1 noscsi noacpi loglevel=2 bkg=bretagne.jpg nozswap showapps tce=UUID=8172-30FF mydata=hp6910pu lst=hp6910pu.lst kmap=qwertz/de-latin1
initrd /boot/tcl/tinycore.gz
#
LABEL knoppix
MENU LABEL knoppix kbd_DE
KERNEL linux
# APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 lang=en vt.default_utf8=0 apm=power-off vga=791 initrd=minirt.gz nomce quiet loglevel=0 tz=localtime
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 lang=en vt.default_utf8=0 apm=power-off vga=0x311 initrd=minirt.gz nomce quiet loglevel=0 tz=localtime
#
LABEL slitaz DE
MENU LABEL slitaz DE
KERNEL /boot/slitaz/bzImage
APPEND rw root=/dev/null quiet home=UUID=8172-30FF kmap=de-latin1 vga=788 sound=no modprobe=mga lang=en acpi=off tz=localtime
INITRD /boot/slitaz/rootfs.gz
#
LABEL PartedMagic
MENU LABEL PartedMagic kbd_US
KERNEL /boot/pmagic/bzImage
APPEND directory=boot quiet edd=off load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=0 rw loglevel=9 max_loop=256
INITRD /boot/pmagic/initramfs
#
LABEL memtest
MENU LABEL memtest
KERNEL memtest
#
LABEL HWTest
MENU LABEL HWTest
KERNEL hdt.c32
APPEND modules_alias=modules.ali pciids=pci.ids modules_pcimap=modules.pci quiet
#
LABEL GoToHDD00
Menu label GoToHDD00 (10GB OldBoy1)
kernel chain.c32
append hd0 0
#
LABEL GoToHDD10
Menu label GoToHDD01 (CF8GB OldBoy1)
kernel chain.c32
append hd1 0
#
LABEL GoToHDD20
Menu label GoToHDD20 (6GB OldBoy1)
kernel chain.c32
append hd2 0
#
APPEND foo
MENU LABEL foo
LABEL dos
KERNEL memdisk
APPEND initrd=balder.img
#
LABEL failsafe
MENU LABEL failsafe
KERNEL linux
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 lang=en vt.default_utf8=0 vga=normal atapicd nosound noapic nolapic noacpi pnpbios=off acpi=off nofstab noscsi nodma noapm nousb nopcmcia nofirewire noagp nomce nonetwork nodhcp xmodule=vesa initrd=minirt.gz
#
LABEL reboot
MENU LABEL Reboot
COM32 reboot.c32
#
LABEL poweroff
MENU LABEL Power Off
COMBOOT poweroff.com
the onboot.lst in this laptop:
kmaps.tcz
lshw.tcz
usb-utils.tcz
conky.tcz
compat-wireless-2.6.33.3-tinycore.tcz
flash10.tcz
opera.tcz
firefox.tcz
firmware-iwlwifi.tcz
tinypoodle:
Looking at the first link in post, there appears to be no relation to "Netbooks"...
labeas:
Hi floppy,
this is my first post on this forum.
I had to buy a Win device to use my wireless-modem, so I got a cheap
HP 1101 [or something] netbook, and it's now got a 8GB CF too;
apart from the 2GB RAM.
Apart from the fact that I'm operating from the 3rd world; relying
on 'the cloud' is IMO, like those who thought their house value would
keep increasing. So I want to try the 'model' where the apps are loaded
from CF.
I've d/l-ed and preliminarily read the FAQ, wiki ..etc.
I normally d/l a dozen URL's via lynx and automatically, append all the texts
to a file for later reading. I can't pay for spurious 'live browsing' with
childish active-smilies - like here.
Please tell me:-
* will my existing bash-scripts work, or does 'busy box' mean TC uses `ash` ?
* can it run [16 copies of] mc [midnight commander] ?
* is 'FW??' that windows manager [which I used a decade ago] which showed
a 3x3 to represent the 9 'desktops' ?
I can't remember if it could conveniently have multiple terminals per
desktp; so that you could easily 'switch' to desktop 3, terminal 2 ?
* I can't remember the details, but loadlin once worked ok: does it enable
a linux session to be run-and-exited, without losing the win-stuff?
I guess not, because it would have to know what RAM, WIN was using?
Because I use an OO approach, rather than the MONSTER-app approach of eg.
a 'universal browser/mailer/news-reader'; i.e. each project has its own
dir-tree, where the files related to THAT project reside;
I need to have several `mc` open at the various dir-trees,
and be able to 'switch' to the corresponding mc, when a related item
arrives.
Under Mandrake9 & kde3, I wrote a script which showed which
<path/file ie. dir-tree> had which Desktop,VT
so that, if I received an item for eg. "tinyCore" I could see that it could
be 'handled' by Desktop 4, VT/consol 3;
instead of hysterically searching through 20 VT on the 4 desktops.
When I upgraded to slak13+xcfe my script no longer worked, and my whole
work-style is disrupted.
== TIA.
Rich:
Hi labeas
You probably should have started a separate thread for this but I'll try to give you some answers.
Busybox uses ash, however, you can get bash by installing util-linux-ng.tcz
Tinycore comes with the fast light window manager. It does offer multiple desk tops.
You can open multiple terminals and copies of mc. I don't know what the limit is, I just opened 20
terminals with no problems on a machine with 512MB and no swap.
There are several different boot loaders available which allow Linux and Windows to co-exist.
labeas:
Thanks for confirming that TC can manage 20 terminals, even with restricted
RAM. I had a look at the screenshot of the <desktop>,and it's not clear how/if
the VTs would be kept in ORDER. The last thing we need, is another M$-like
mess where the <papers are scattered over the desk>.
Has any body seen the superior way that Oberon [S3 & V4] does it - dating from
decades ago. Imagine if paper books, didn't have <ordered binding & a fixed
location index>? Why does computing replace proven functionality by arty-crap?
---------
Apart from manually keeping an index of which VT has a certain <path>, how
would you know that VT:17 had the <path related to the email which has arrived>?
How would you swith to VT:17? KDE & xfce can be swithed eg. to Desktop4, VT3.
Thanks,
== labeas.
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