Browser support

[bmarkus]

Could not get Bluefish working but Geany works fine and is also rustc code aware

What is wrong with Bluefish? It was updated recently. Did you try the latest in the repo?

Is there a USB webcam app that would allow me to take images to do vision stuff on?
V4L is very old piCore 3?
Got plenty of Sony PS3 eyecams for $2 each.

I'm not familiar with webcams

[gavinmc42]

Must have done something wrong with the Bluefish install, still getting the hang of TC X11 apps.
Deleted the tcz with MC and reinstalled it today, it is working now
Did it a few days ago, old version?
Now got two editors

Don't know much about webcams either
In Linux/Raspbian I use Cheese, QtV4L2 test, FSwebcam etc
Need something lower level to just take a bmp, might try a pascal, python or Lua library.

V4L2 is what most use for that, but it looks complex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video4Linux.
Hmm gstreamer, ffmpeg, might try installing them first.
Ok,  they are big too.

Finally with Internet access at home I can get xxx.tcz's with dependencies  and start doing development in piCore.
Need compiletc.tcz first?

Last week I was playing with a $20,000 Ximea USB multispectral camera
It just worked in Windows/Linux/Raspbian, but they are too bloated for single purpose gadgets.
Just lucky i only had to get the hardware working, software is someone else's problem at the moment

[tomster]

Hi Béla!

Any news on a Midori package yet? It would come in reeeaaally handy at this point in time...
Regards,
Tom

[bmarkus]

Hi Béla!

Any news on a Midori package yet? It would come in reeeaaally handy at this point in time...
Regards,
Tom

I must find some time to deal with it

[polikuo]

For experimental purpose only.
Porting firefox from debian. 

Download firefox-esr armhf from https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firefox-esr
Download language pack if you need it.
Extract it with

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busybox ar vx filename.deb
tar xf data.tar.xz

Create custome tczs (firefox_download.tcz, language_pack.tcz)

Use this script if you need to merge firefox and it's language pack together
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,20709.msg129934.html#msg129934
1. prepare firefox_download.tcz, language_pack.tcz, language_pack.tcz.dep
2. put your firefox_download.tcz language_pack.tcz language_pack.tcz.dep into your /ets/sysconfig/tcedir/optional
3. run deps-merge.sh -i language_pack.tcz -o firefox-esr.tcz

*** Make sure you have UTF-8 fonts in /usr/share/fonts NOT /usr/local/share/fonts ***

Create a dep file

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dbus-glib.tcz
gtk2.tcz
hunspell.tcz
libXt.tcz
libasound.tcz
libevent.tcz
startup-notification.tcz

The newly created firefox-esr.tcz icon won't show up on your wbar
You'll need to modify the extension
copy usr/share/applications/firefox-esr.desktop  to usr/local/share/applications/firefox-esr.desktop
Append this line to the latter

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X-FullPathIcon=/usr/share/pixmaps/firefox-esr.png

Tested on Raspberry Pi 3 model B with piCore-8.1.5.
Watching youtube can be lagging but acceptable.
Audio works with alsa.
Viewing PDF is a bit slow.
Overall, it's not a bad idea for general browsing. 

[tomster]

Thx polikuo!
I will get into this as soon as sparetime permits.
Being able to setup TCL-Raspis (maybe even on PiCorePlayer-images) with a usable browser in kiosk mode that could be powered-down the "hard way" would come in really handy for my purposes. 

[Juanito]

the fifth browser is also available in the piCore repos.

[curaga]

Was the rebuild more stable?

[Juanito]

It's only crashed a couple of times in a week of use and only on the tinycore site 

Note that I haven't re-built for armv7, as opposed to armv8, as yet.

[PDP-8]

An odd thought about Fifth ..

For now, I use another machine / browser for major online interaction, BUT love using the Fifth browser for all my own javascript learning / coding while offline.

Seems stable enough, but then again, I'm not pushing it hard with my own simplistic javascript.  Mostly just a big html/css/javascript local terminal if you will.

I was wondering if a (secondary) Fifth extension could be made even smaller / stabler by removing things that are not needed for online interaction... like a "Fifth-offline.tcz"

Random back-burner thought...

[curaga]

Those are tiny. You would save maybe less than 50k if you managed to remove curl (plus the size of libcurl).

[PDP-8]

Ah, ok no major savings.

The GREAT news for me is that on piCore, the Fifth browser is totally stable on this forum by deactivating images.  I don't know how I missed that since I believe it was mentioned before.

And, gave the video gpu a little boost on my RPI2 in config.txt (gpu_mem=256), and this seems to have given it a little bit more headway.

[gavinmc42]

Fifth is not bad, not sure how to get youtubes working or is that the point.
But as general browser in the TC desktop I'm impressed, next, try it on a Zero
I don't have time to watch video, this is fine as it is for me.
Since that's all the kid watches, putting piCore on the TV Pi3, might get the wife's tablet back.

Interesting, if I slide the mouse along the video time line I see thumbnails.
Under Setting /Advanced/Programs it is set to use mplayer to stream videos.
Is there a mplayer.tzc? or is it better to use omxplayer?
Then to get audio going?

Might have mess about with GPU memory?
Can I ditch Raspbian yet?
 I think I am up to 37MB in the tce folder, lucky I increased it to 100MB

[PDP-8]

The Fifth browser is kind of NOT about being a multi-faceted media consumption program - if you want that then leave that to external programs.

In my case, I have other devices if I want to watch web tv in hd.

But for research, I love what the Fifth is all about.  Occasionally I'll save an image and view/manipulate it with ImageMagick.  Call it retro-computing if you will, but I find it totally refreshing..

[gavinmc42]

Call it retro-computing if you will, but I find it totally refreshing..

Yep the way browsers should work, before bandwidth hogging.
Makes me want to built that Pi tablet, kid won't pinch it becuase it won't play Youtubes
Make an ebook that is internet aware and less than 100MB including boot partition.

Wonder what it looks like on a 5"800x480 TFT?