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Offline sklimkin

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Keyboard layout switching
« on: May 16, 2012, 07:13:47 AM »
Keyboard layout switching - why isn't present?
I have attentively read all messages on this theme and haven't found the answer.
My question: why there is no keyboard switch on languages different from English?
I don't know an operating system (except TinyCoreLinux) where such switch isn't present.
There are absolute obstacles for inclusion of such module?
« Last Edit: May 16, 2012, 07:16:00 AM by sklimkin »

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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2012, 07:40:31 AM »
Hi sklimkin
First of all, there is no need to shout.
Second of all, if you are having a problem, state what you are trying to do and ask your question.
Did you try looking for   keyboard keymap   or   keyboard locale   using the forums search page?

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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2012, 09:29:55 AM »
None are included by default, since many uses don't need that. See the FAQ on using kmaps.tcz.
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2012, 11:54:27 AM »
If allocation by a thick font means to shout, excuse.
I wanted to allocate only the main thing in the message.

I want to have the button - the switch of keyboard layout from one language on another.
So anyway it is accepted in many realizations of the most different operating systems.
Localization is - in the native language I can read texts in some programs (for example in the Internet browser).

Question on that the user could enter the text from the keyboard in the native language. Without crutches.
If I am expressed in not clear image for you, all claims to the language-transfer program.

I Russian also feel necessity sometimes to enter from the keyboard the text which is presented by Cyrillic symbols.
Possibly Chineses, Japanese and Koreans have a same requirement of input from the keyboard of symbols of hieroglyphs in the language.
Count them and don't forget Indians and Russian.
He/she is many users, or it is not enough - as you consider?

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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2012, 11:59:36 AM »
Oh you mean mode switch. Indeed we don't have nice applets for that. TC is more of a toolkit, not an all-encompassing distro.

Any mode switching is built into the keymaps, for example ru1.kmap uses right alt for switching between latin and cyrillic.
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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2012, 01:42:45 PM »
dear sklimkin
it seems you mixed up the keyboard switcher against keyboard layout indicator
which you accustomed to seeing in tray in most different operating systems
after them installation (of course except TinyCoreLinux)
if you are interested how it is implemented in most of these systems
or how you can configure the switch keyboard layouts by yourself
please try to search in forum by keyword setxkbmap
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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2012, 01:59:55 PM »
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Any mode switching is built into the keymaps, for example ru1.kmap uses right alt for switching between latin and cyrillic.
I rewrite my settings in menu.lst as:
Code: [Select]
title CorePlusLinux 4.4 desktop=flwm live HDD/Flash to RAM cde44
    find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /TCLboot/vmlinuz
    kernel /TCLboot/vmlinuz quiet cde44 showapps vga=795 xsetup lang=ru_RU.UTF-8 kmap=ru1.kmap tz=GMT+4 noutc desktop=flwm_topside
    initrd /TCLboot/core.gz
and reboot system - no effect, right-alt key not switch latin-cyrillic.
Before I set as:
Code: [Select]
kmap=qwerty/ruwin_ctrl-UTF-8also unsuccesfully !

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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2012, 02:13:05 PM »
how much i remember this works only in the command line
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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2012, 02:59:33 PM »
http://fbxkb.sourceforge.net/faq.html
you can find fbxkb in the tinycore repo
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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2012, 01:30:46 AM »
kmap=qwerty/ru1
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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2012, 02:24:14 PM »
Thanks, but any of the answers resulted here are NOT work.
Neither in the console, nor in the editor, anywhere.
If it is not assured, it is better to keep silent - a good rule!

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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2012, 02:29:49 PM »
Don't cop an attitude with those trying to help - a good rule!

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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2012, 04:41:48 PM »
Julius, let me tell you something about America...
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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2012, 03:18:30 AM »
as abnormis say, try to launch "setxkbmap ru" command in a terminal if you use Xorg.
This command work to my pc:
фывыфвпвычтпкщвтуащф

To use the bootcode kmap you have put kmaps.tcz  in startup

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Re: Keyboard layout switching
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2012, 05:29:00 AM »
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as abnormis say, try to launch "setxkbmap ru" command in a terminal if you use Xorg.
This command work to my pc:
фывыфвпвычтпкщвтуащф

To use the bootcode kmap you have put kmaps.tcz  in startup
To vinnie:
The command <setxkbmap ru> entered in the terminal, has changed nothing.
Please tell more in detail if you have time.
Where also that it is necessary to write: /dir/dir/file - contents.
TCL ver.4.4 it is established from a repository, some packages, including kmaps.tcz are added.

My config-setup of TCL
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menu.lst ->
(previous)
title CorePlusLinux desktop=hackedbox live HDD/Flash to RAM cde
    find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /boot/vmlinuz
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz quiet cde showapps vga=795 xsetup lang=ru_RU.UTF-8 kmap=qwerty/ru1 tz=GMT+4 noutc desktop=hackedbox
    initrd /boot/core.gz

(last)
title CorePlusLinux 4.4 desktop=flwm live HDD/Flash to RAM cde44
    find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /TCLboot/vmlinuz
    kernel /TCLboot/vmlinuz quiet cde44 showapps vga=795 xsetup lang=ru_RU.UTF-8 kmap=ru1 tz=GMT+4 noutc desktop=flwm_topside
    initrd /TCLboot/core.gz

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TCLboot/ ->
/core.gz
/tinycore.gz
/vmlinuz

cde44/ ->
/wifi.instlist 
/ndiswrapper.instlist
/wififirmware.instlist
/installer.instlist
/remaster.instlist
/xbase.lst
/kmaps.instlist - kmaps.tcz
/optional<DIR>

/onboot.lst ->
Xvesa.tcz
Xlibs.tcz
Xprogs.tcz
fltk-1.10.tcz
flwm_topside.tcz
flwm.tcz
wbar.tcz
icewm.tcz
jwm.tcz
fluxbox.tcz
hackedbox.tcz
openbox.tcz
tc-install.tcz
kmaps.tcz
wifi.tcz
wl-modules-3.0.21-tinycore.tcz
ndiswrapper.tcz
iw.tcz
firmware-atheros.tcz
firmware-bnx2.tcz
firmware-broadcom.tcz
firmware-ipw2100.tcz
firmware-ipw2200.tcz
firmware-iwlwifi.tcz
firmware-libertas.tcz
firmware-myri10ge.tcz
firmware-netxen.tcz
firmware-openfwwf.tcz
firmware-r8168.tcz
firmware-radeon.tcz
firmware.tcz
firmware-ti-connectivity.tcz
firmware-ueagle.tcz
firmware-vxge.tcz
firmware-wimax.tcz
firmware-zd1211.tcz
b43-fwcutter.tcz
pci-utils.tcz
ezremaster.tcz