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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2011, 12:32:35 PM »
hi roberts,

with some learnings i successfully upgraded my configurations to 4.2.

but my ondemand-menu in fluxbox doesn't load ondemand anymore.
i deleted my ondemand file that it was reproduced automatically, but nevertheless it doesn't work anymore.

here a short part of my fluxbox-ondemand-file:

[submenu](OnDemand)
[exec](cfdisk){/etc/sysconfig/tcedir/ondemand/cfdisk}
[exec](xvkbd){/etc/sysconfig/tcedir/ondemand/xvkbd}
[end] OnDemand

do you have any idea? has it something to do with the path /etc/sysconfig/tcedir...?
this path with the program doesn't install ondemand on the command-line, too.
the command-line gives no respond, i have to "tce-load -i program" manually...

thank you in advance for every help and hint!
« Last Edit: December 27, 2011, 12:37:10 PM by netnomad »

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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2011, 01:04:17 PM »
fluxbox is a window manager, and won't run if another window manager is already running.

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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2011, 01:14:02 PM »
hi gerald_clark,

i want to give some more detailed informations:
i use just
kernel+core+xvesa+xprogs+fltk-1.10+fluxbox+wbar
and
i enjoy to use a really nice home-brewed-configuration, based on fluxbox.
everything with fluxbox works fine, with exception of my fluxbox-ondemand-submenu.
that means, when i choose a program out of the menu, nothing happens.
the same command on the cli gives no response, the only way to load further programs ondemand
is the manually way over "tce-load -i program.tcz".

thank you for your further advices!

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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2011, 02:28:57 PM »
fat is ugly, however does not impact use.
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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2011, 02:42:17 PM »
hi roberts,

with some learnings i successfully upgraded my configurations to 4.2.

but my ondemand-menu in fluxbox doesn't load ondemand anymore.
i deleted my ondemand file that it was reproduced automatically, but nevertheless it doesn't work anymore.

here a short part of my fluxbox-ondemand-file:

[submenu](OnDemand)
[exec](cfdisk){/etc/sysconfig/tcedir/ondemand/cfdisk}
[exec](xvkbd){/etc/sysconfig/tcedir/ondemand/xvkbd}
[end] OnDemand

do you have any idea? has it something to do with the path /etc/sysconfig/tcedir...?
this path with the program doesn't install ondemand on the command-line, too.
the command-line gives no respond, i have to "tce-load -i program" manually...

thank you in advance for every help and hint!

fluxbox ondemand is working as expected. Try a properly configured freedesktop extension such as xchat.tcz, which has both an icon and menu item, or even ace-of-penguins,tcz which only has a menu item.

cfdisk does not have a freedesktop item, which is supposed to be our standard. cfdisk is not an X/GUI program and should have cliorx as for example, aterm does or wifi.tcz does in their freedesktop spec.

Edit
Likely xvkbd.tcz is missing the cliorx directive in its freedesktop item.
xvkbd is an X/GUI program and is working as expected fluxbox ondemand.

Therefore it would appear that your issues as extension specific and could easily be fixed with proper specifications.

Without proper freedesktop specification ondemand typically can only load the extension. Therefore requiring you to open an xterm and typing the expected startup command. With proper freedesktop spec, and  with cliorx for not X/GUI, it could be automatic.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2011, 02:58:49 PM by roberts »
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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2011, 02:49:53 PM »
hi roberts,

with some learnings i successfully upgraded my configurations to 4.2.

but my ondemand-menu in fluxbox doesn't load ondemand anymore.
i deleted my ondemand file that it was reproduced automatically, but nevertheless it doesn't work anymore.

here a short part of my fluxbox-ondemand-file:

[submenu](OnDemand)
[exec](cfdisk){/etc/sysconfig/tcedir/ondemand/cfdisk}
[exec](xvkbd){/etc/sysconfig/tcedir/ondemand/xvkbd}
[end] OnDemand

do you have any idea? has it something to do with the path /etc/sysconfig/tcedir...?
this path with the program doesn't install ondemand on the command-line, too.
the command-line gives no respond, i have to "tce-load -i program" manually...

thank you in advance for every help and hint!
for me in 4.2rc3..
the ondemand were not working anymore.. see http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,12164.msg65419.html#msg65419
I had to.. (in the appsaudit, ondemand)
a) take all apps away of it
b) close appsaudit
c) start appsaudit again and put all apps again in it
and it works..
so perhaps its the same in the official release for migrated apps.
just an idea.
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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2011, 02:56:30 PM »
The 4.2 announcement states that such is necessary.
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Note: You must recreate all ondemand items. Use AppsAudit OnDemand Maintenance.
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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2011, 08:28:16 PM »
hi roberts,

thanks a lot, it works after rerunning the ondemand-list...

in my observation 4.2 is much faster and reactive compared to all predecessors!
booting, loading ondemand and especially suspend-to-ram and afterwards the awaking is so fast!!!

you did a great job!

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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2011, 09:36:57 PM »
I am not seeing this. md5sums check. I just now downloaded Core-4.2.iso and booting it the version command displays 4.2

'Not sure what happened, but it's OK now  :)

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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2011, 02:24:32 AM »
I get curious on these two parts of the text.

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1. Dropped tc-grub4dos


2. You would have to use CLI utilities for Core extensions.

1. Ooops I loved that TC supported grub4dos. Made it easy for me to boot.
So now it support isolinux? Syslinux? Extlinux? I never heard of that one.

2. So if I want to add say fluff file manager then I need to learn what cli code to use.
something like apt-get or wget or similar? How does one know the name of these progs?
and what each of them do, their features and so on? Such a steep learning curve?

Sure progress is good. A much better version seen from the TC policy point of view. I agree.
I only fail to understand how to do things.
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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2011, 02:37:43 AM »
So if I want to add say fluff file manager then I need to learn what cli code to use.
something like apt-get or wget or similar? How does one know the name of these progs?
and what each of them do, their features and so on? Such a steep learning curve?

I guess it depends in what context you're speaking:

tinycore - use the apps browser as before

microcore - since there's only a cli, then you'd need to know the cli commands...

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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2011, 02:46:11 AM »
tc-grub4dos.tcz is NOT grub4dos. tc-grub4dos.tcz is/was an installation program targeted for Windows XP.
This extension overwrites the XP MBR which was not popular. Many want modification to use NTLDR.

grub4dos.tcz is a boot loader and is fully supported with Core 4.2. Do not confuse the two.

Your second concern about using CLI utilities for extensions applies only if you choose not to use Xprogs.tcz!
Why do you imply that it is something different? You can still use Xprogs and have the same FLTK/GUI programs as in all previous version of Core. In fact, TinyCore.iso is still available and CorePlus, I would assert, makes it even easier to frugal install, even embedded frugal install, to a hard drive, as well as a pendrive. See updated install page:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/install.html
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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2011, 03:11:34 AM »
Thanks to both of you. Sorry you are right. I had forgotten what
the name implied. Then I will delete it from my files. Have no need for it.

I will read on the link you provided and try to grasp it. I am a reluctant noob.
I do my best to get what you write but it is way above my knowledge. Sorry
But thanks for your patience with a complete noob.
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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2011, 05:28:53 AM »
Hi Robert and the rest of Team TC!

Have just installed it on one of my oldest usb sticks still alive and TC 4.2 (or Core v4.2) works well over my expectations. Fast even on this old stick. A big hand to all the team for their efforts!!!

Have fun extending the boundaries of TC,
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Re: Core 4.2
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2011, 09:46:04 AM »
Well, I'm really scratching my head here trying to figure out where the background disappears to.?  using fluxbox WM in frugal install with persistent home and opt

I understand .setbackground needs updating, did that; still no background,  deleted the mydata file, set background, created new backup, rebooted; result No background..  H'mmmm   seam's like .setbackground is not run at boot, yet if it is run manually after boot the background appears however the wbar disappears..


??
« Last Edit: December 28, 2011, 02:14:44 PM by coreplayer2 »